Darby Allin: I’ve Never Liked The Term ‘Pillars’, Whoever Is Ride Or Die With AEW Is A Pillar

Darby Allin doesn’t like the term “pillar” and says everyone who is ride or die with AEW should be considered one.

Darby Allin doesn’t like the term “pillar” and says everyone who is ride or die with AEW should be considered one.

Allin, MJF, Sammy Guevara, and “Jungle Boy” Jack Perry are often called AEW’s Four Pillars, as the young stars have been with the company from the start. In the company’s early years, they were viewed as the future, and that future has become the present. MJF reigns supreme as the AEW World Champion, while both Allin and Guevara are multi-time TNT Champions. Meanwhile, Perry is a former AEW World Tag Team Champion, and he has defeated major stars like Christian Cage. The Four Pillars will headline AEW Double or Nothing, as MJF will put the AEW World Championship on the line against Allin, Perry, and Guevara.

In an interview with Fightful’s Sean Ross Sapp, Allin highlighted the evolution of his fellow Pillars. He looked back on his first matches with MJF, Guevara, and Perry and noted that it feels like they’re all the same now. Allin called that the beauty of what AEW provides, as he stated that the roster is not a group of manufactured people. 

“Man, I don’t know. It’s weird because I feel like everybody’s almost the same. It’s strange in that when I wrestled MJF down in Maine for the first time, it literally feels like the same guy. When I wrestled Sammy at Black Label for the first time, it literally feels like the same guy. When I wrestled Jungle Boy in the no ring match in L.A., it literally seems like the same guy. It’s kind of interesting and I think that shows the beauty of what AEW gives us. We ain’t a bunch of manufactured people,” Allin said.

Allin went on to describe how he never liked the term “pillars”, as it sounds like a cute catchphrase. He described how the word makes it feel like they’re above people, and he thinks any wrestler who is truly “ride or die” with AEW is a pillar. Allin then pointed to MJF and questioned how he could call himself a pillar when he has openly teased that he’ll leave the company. The former TNT Champion also stated that he likes the way foutr homegrown stars are getting the main-event spotlight. 

“I don’t know. I never liked that term, pillars. Never liked it, never liked it. I think it sounds like a cute catchphrase Max came up with. To me, pillars, it feels like we’re above people when we call ourselves pillars and I honestly feel like whoever is ride or die with this company is a pillar in my eyes. So it takes more than just four guys and you got a guy like MJF, how can you really call yourself a pillar when you don’t even know if you want to be here in 2024? So, like I said, man. Instead of making a shirt with four dudes on it, put the whole roster. Put everybody. ‘Cause we’re all pillars, man. We’re all gonna grow this company. It’s so new. I don’t like calling myself a pillar. But I do like the fact that we are four homegrown talents getting in that spotlight. That’s awesome. But a pillar? No,” Allin said.

In the same interview, Allin addressed the rumors he would be in Jackass. Click here to see what he had to say.

MJF recently stated that Britt Baker is not a pillar. Check out his comments here.

Check out the card for AEW Double or Nothing here. Fightful will have live coverage of the show as it airs on May 28.